Rogue specialization

Combat Rogue in WoW Forever

Weapon attacks and finishing moves.

  • Your role: Melee damage
  • Advice for every level to 60
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Level 35 · Damage in a group

How to play dungeons at level 35

Your combat loop

Press the first one that is ready.

Combat’s own loop, from level 10. Before that every Rogue plays the same loop.

Own loop from: Combat level 10Subtlety level 10Assassination level 40

Use Instant Poison on the main hand, Deadly Poison on the off hand. It does 4% more than Instant Poison on both weapons. About even (within 3%): Deadly Poison on the main hand, Instant Poison on the off hand; or Deadly Poison on both weapons.

  1. Blade Flurry Cooldown · every 2 min

    Use it whenever it is ready, every 120 sec. It raises the rest.

  2. Shank Rank 1 Every 9.6 sec

    Use it whenever it is ready, every 9.6 sec.

    3% of your damage
  3. Slice and Dice Rank 1 Keep up · combo points

    Keep it up with combo points.

    no damage of its own
  4. Sinister Strike Rank 5 Filler

    Spend the rest of your energy on it.

    25% of your damage
  5. Eviscerate Rank 5 Finisher

    Spend the rest of your combo points on it.

    3% of your damage
  6. Instant Poison II Main hand

    Keep it on your main-hand weapon.

    3% of your damage
  7. Deadly Poison Off hand

    Keep it on your off-hand weapon.

    6% of your damage
  8. Auto attack All the time

    Your weapon swings on its own. Stay in melee range.

    61% of your damage

The first 30 seconds

When to press each one from the pull. The blue line under a press is the global cooldown (1 sec) or cast it holds: nothing else on the global cooldown can go until it ends, so of two that are ready together the higher one goes first.

All the time
Instant Poison IIDeadly PoisonAuto attack

How MaxDPS works this out

Talents at level 35

26 points at level 35: the first at level 10, then one every level.

The MaxDPS build at this level, in the game’s talent frame. Click a talent to learn it and right click to unlearn it, as in the game.

Talents
Unspent Talents
Point order: when each point goes in
  1. Efficient Strikes 2/2 · levels 10–11 +4% damage
  2. Coup de Grace 3/3 · levels 12–14 +0.4% damage
  3. Precision 3/3 · levels 15–17 +3.5% damage
  4. Deflection 3/3 · levels 18–20 not counted here
  5. Endurance 2/2 · levels 21–22 not counted here
  6. Composure 2/2 · levels 23–24 not counted here
  7. Aggression 3/3 · levels 25–27 +3.7% damage
  8. Flawless Execution 1/1 · level 28 +0.5% damage
  9. Weapon Expertise 2/2 · levels 29–30 +2.3% damage
  10. Dual Wield Specialization 2/2 · levels 31–32 +10.6% damage
  11. Hack and Slash 1/5 · level 33 +1.1% damage
  12. Blade Flurry 1/1 · level 34 +0.8% damage
  13. Flash of Steel 1/5 · level 35 +1.5% damage

Every Rogue talent

Preliminary item rankings · Dungeons

Combat Rogue gear rankings

Sustained weapon damage · Level 35 · Calculated defaults

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Off hand 259 items · Updating…

Where it comes from
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Key stats show the stats behind the three largest score contributions, as the game tooltip states them; open an item’s details for every value and source.

Off hand items with imported stats, weighted scores and acquisition sources.
Rank Item Score (pts) Where to get it Actions
1 in this filtered list
Shovelphlange's Mining Axe Axe · iLvl 40 · Req. 35 · Other drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 27.32 Weapon melee DPS11 Attack power7 Strength
90.05
Digmaster ShovelphlangeBoss drop · 16% · Badlands
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 27.32 × 3.648 = 73.73 pts
  • Attack power: 11 × 0.6276 = 6.90 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 76.5 × 0.8079 = 5.02 pts
  • Strength: 7 × 0.6276 = 4.39 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

Digmaster ShovelphlangeBoss drop · 16% · Badlands
2 in this filtered list
Bludgeon of Betrayed Virtues Mace · iLvl 42 · Req. 35 · Quest · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 28.64 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility3 Strength
86.59
Khan JehnQuest choice · Desolace

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 28.64 × 3.648 = 77.29 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 63 × 0.8079 = 4.13 pts
  • Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts
  • Strength: 3 × 0.6276 = 1.88 pts
  • Stamina: 6 × 0.2135 = 1.28 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

Khan JehnQuest choice · Desolace
3 in this filtered list
Sickle Axe Axe · iLvl 39 · Req. 34 · Other drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 26.54 Weapon melee DPS5 Agility6 Strength
85.56
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 26.54 × 3.648 = 71.63 pts
  • Agility: 5 × 1 = 5.00 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 69 × 0.8079 = 4.53 pts
  • Strength: 6 × 0.6276 = 3.77 pts
  • Stamina: 3 × 0.2135 = 0.64 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

4 in this filtered list
Annealed Blade Sword · iLvl 40 · Req. 35 · Dungeon drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 27.22 Weapon melee DPS6 Strength6 Stamina
81.72
Shadowforge Relic HunterNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 27.22 × 3.648 = 73.46 pts
  • Strength: 6 × 0.6276 = 3.77 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 49 × 0.8079 = 3.21 pts
  • Stamina: 6 × 0.2135 = 1.28 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

8 sources

Shadowforge Relic HunterNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Stonevault GeomancerNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Stonevault OracleNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Stonevault BrawlerNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Stone StewardNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Stonevault RockchewerNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Stonevault MaulerNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Shadowforge RuffianNPC drop · <0.1% · Badlands
5 in this filtered list
Bloodslash Axe Axe · iLvl 39 · Req. 34 · Dungeon drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 26.6 Weapon melee DPS5 Strength5 Stamina
80.36
Zul'AlaiNPC drop · 27% · The Drowned City

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 26.6 × 3.648 = 71.79 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 66.5 × 0.8079 = 4.36 pts
  • Strength: 5 × 0.6276 = 3.14 pts
  • Stamina: 5 × 0.2135 = 1.07 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

Zul'AlaiNPC drop · 27% · The Drowned City
6 in this filtered list
Fight Club Mace · iLvl 39 · Req. 34 · Dungeon drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 26.59 Weapon melee DPS5 Strength4 Stamina
79.59
Scarlet EvokerNPC drop · <0.1% · Scarlet Monastery
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 26.59 × 3.648 = 71.76 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 58.5 × 0.8079 = 3.84 pts
  • Strength: 5 × 0.6276 = 3.14 pts
  • Stamina: 4 × 0.2135 = 0.85 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

10 sources

Scarlet EvokerNPC drop · <0.1% · Scarlet Monastery
Scarlet MonkNPC drop · <0.1% · Scarlet Monastery
Scarlet DefenderNPC drop · <0.1% · Scarlet Monastery
Scarlet WizardNPC drop · <0.1% · Scarlet Monastery
Scarlet MyrmidonNPC drop · <0.1% · Scarlet Monastery
Scarlet SorcererNPC drop · <0.1% · Scarlet Monastery
Scarlet SoldierNPC drop · <0.1% · Scarlet Monastery
7 in this filtered list
Pyromancer's Baton Mace · iLvl 40 · Req. 35 · Other drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 27.5 Weapon melee DPS
78.55

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 27.5 × 3.648 = 74.22 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 66 × 0.8079 = 4.33 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

8 in this filtered list
Resurged Axe Axe · iLvl 40 · Req. 35 · Dungeon drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 27.31 Weapon melee DPS
78.36
Brinescale SorceressNPC drop · 0.4%
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 27.31 × 3.648 = 73.70 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 71 × 0.8079 = 4.66 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

2 sources

Brinescale SorceressNPC drop · 0.4%
9 in this filtered list
Howling Blade Dagger · iLvl 38 · Req. 33 · Other drop Key stats: 25.83 Weapon melee DPS4 Agility
76.76
SkhowlNPC drop · 25% · Alterac Mountains
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 25.83 × 3.648 = 69.71 pts
  • Agility: 4 × 1 = 4.00 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 46.5 × 0.8079 = 3.05 pts

Rare

Source

SkhowlNPC drop · 25% · Alterac Mountains
10 in this filtered list
Scorpion Sting Sword · iLvl 39 · Req. 34 · Other drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 26.46 Weapon melee DPS
75.58
Strong Iron LockboxContainer loot · 0.1%
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 26.46 × 3.648 = 71.41 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 63.5 × 0.8079 = 4.17 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

23 sources

Strong Iron LockboxContainer loot · 0.1%
Twilight RitualistWorld drop · <0.1%
Murloc WarriorWorld drop · <0.1%
Swampwalker ElderNPC drop · <0.1% · Swamp of Sorrows
Redridge MysticWorld drop · <0.1%
Syndicate MagusNPC drop · <0.1% · Arathi Highlands
Stonevault BonesnapperNPC drop · <0.1% · Badlands
All 23 sources
11 in this filtered list
Blade of the Basilisk Sword · iLvl 39 · Req. 34 · Other drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 26.58 Weapon melee DPS
75.05
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 26.58 × 3.648 = 71.73 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 50.5 × 0.8079 = 3.31 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

12 in this filtered list
Stonevault Shiv Dagger · iLvl 36 · Req. 31 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 24 Weapon melee DPS7 Agility3 Stamina
74.77
Ancient TreasureObject loot · 0.2% · Uldaman
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 24 × 3.648 = 64.77 pts
  • Agility: 7 × 1 = 7.00 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 36 × 0.8079 = 2.36 pts
  • Stamina: 3 × 0.2135 = 0.64 pts

Rare

9 sources

Ancient TreasureObject loot · 0.2% · Uldaman
Stonevault RockchewerNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Shadowforge DiggerNPC drop · <0.1%
Shadowforge RuffianNPC drop · <0.1% · Badlands
Stonevault OracleNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Stonevault FlameweaverNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Shadowforge SurveyorNPC drop · <0.1% · Badlands
Stonevault BrawlerNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
Venomlash ScorpidNPC drop · <0.1% · Uldaman
13 in this filtered list
The Ziggler Dagger · iLvl 39 · Req. 34 · Other drop Key stats: 26.47 Weapon melee DPS
74.39
Lesser Darkmoon PrizeContainer loot · 2.3%
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 26.47 × 3.648 = 71.44 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 45 × 0.8079 = 2.95 pts

Rare

33 sources

Lesser Darkmoon PrizeContainer loot · 2.3%
Champion of the DeepNPC drop · 0.9%
Brinescale ExplorerNPC drop · 0.2%
Hoard of the Black DragonflightContainer loot · <0.1%
Stone GolemNPC drop · <0.1% · Badlands
Swampwalker ElderNPC drop · <0.1% · Swamp of Sorrows
Solid ChestObject loot · <0.1%
All 33 sources
14 in this filtered list
Ebony Boneclub Mace · iLvl 37 · Req. 32 · Dungeon drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 25 Weapon melee DPS6 Strength
74.19
Frozen SoulNPC drop · 0.2% · Razorfen Downs
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 25 × 3.648 = 67.47 pts
  • Strength: 6 × 0.6276 = 3.77 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 45 × 0.8079 = 2.95 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

15 sources

Frozen SoulNPC drop · 0.2% · Razorfen Downs
Freezing SpiritNPC drop · <0.1% · Razorfen Downs
Tomb ReaverNPC drop · <0.1% · Razorfen Downs
Withered WarriorNPC drop · <0.1% · Razorfen Downs
Thorn Eater GhoulNPC drop · <0.1% · Razorfen Downs
GluttonNPC drop · <0.1% · Razorfen Downs
Mordresh Fire EyeNPC drop · <0.1% · Razorfen Downs
All 15 sources
15 in this filtered list
Midnight Mace Mace · iLvl 38 · Req. 33 · Other drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 25.8 Weapon melee DPS
73.86
Large Solid ChestObject loot · 0.2%
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 25.8 × 3.648 = 69.63 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 64.5 × 0.8079 = 4.23 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

36 sources

Large Solid ChestObject loot · 0.2%
Strong Iron LockboxContainer loot · 0.2%
Kurzen SubchiefNPC drop · <0.1% · Stranglethorn Vale
Shadowforge WarriorNPC drop · <0.1% · Badlands
Kegan DarkmarNPC drop · <0.1% · Alterac Mountains
Whirlwind StormwalkerNPC drop · <0.1% · Desolace
All 36 sources
16 in this filtered list
Ruby-Adorned Blade Sword · iLvl 36 · Req. 31* · Quest · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 23.91 Weapon melee DPS3 Agility8 Stamina
72.84
The Eye of BhosscaQuest reward

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 23.91 × 3.648 = 64.53 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 55 × 0.8079 = 3.61 pts
  • Agility: 3 × 1 = 3.00 pts
  • Stamina: 8 × 0.2135 = 1.71 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

The Eye of BhosscaQuest reward
17 in this filtered list
Stalvan's Reaper Axe · iLvl 37 · Req. 32 · Other drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 24.83 Weapon melee DPS
71.73
Mad MarriusWorld drop · 5.6% · also from 31 other creatures
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 24.83 × 3.648 = 67.01 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 72 × 0.8079 = 4.72 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

35 sources

Mad MarriusWorld drop · 5.6% · also from 31 other creatures
Hoard of the Black DragonflightContainer loot · 0.3%
Risen SentryNPC drop · 0.2%
Saltseer MurdererNPC drop · 0.2%
Alliance ChestObject loot · 0.2% · Arathi Highlands
Large Solid ChestObject loot · 0.1%
Maraudine MaulerNPC drop · <0.1% · Desolace
Undead RavagerNPC drop · <0.1%
All 35 sources
18 in this filtered list
Twilight Carver Sword · iLvl 40 · Req. 35* · Quest · Alliance only · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 22.4 Weapon melee DPS10 Attack power4 Stamina
71.26

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 22.4 × 3.648 = 60.45 pts
  • Attack power: 10 × 0.6276 = 6.28 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 56 × 0.8079 = 3.67 pts
  • Stamina: 4 × 0.2135 = 0.85 pts

Uncommon · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

19 in this filtered list
Ironspine's Fist Mace · iLvl 35 · Req. 30 · Dungeon drop · Weapon training for some races Key stats: 22.92 Weapon melee DPS7 Strength
69.86
IronspineNPC drop · 20% · Scarlet Monastery

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 22.92 × 3.648 = 61.86 pts
  • Strength: 7 × 0.6276 = 4.39 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 55 × 0.8079 = 3.61 pts

Rare · Weapon training for some races — check item requirements

Source

IronspineNPC drop · 20% · Scarlet Monastery
20 in this filtered list
Sliverblade Dagger · iLvl 37 · Req. 32 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 25 Weapon melee DPS
69.77
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Weapon melee DPS: 25 × 3.648 = 67.47 pts
  • Weapon damage per swing: 35 × 0.8079 = 2.30 pts

Rare

Item stats from the WoW Forever game files; sources from data collected from the live game. Auction prices are the lowest buyout on the Americas · Normal auction houses, read from Blizzard every hour; pick another region or ruleset under Filters. Which house is which ruleset is matched by size and still being confirmed in game.

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