Rogue specialization

Subtlety Rogue in WoW Forever

Stealth, bleeds and control.

  • Your role: Melee damage
  • Advice for every level to 60
  • Class notes checked

Your character

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Level 15 · Damage in a group

How to play dungeons at level 15

Your combat loop

Press the first one that is ready.

Subtlety’s own loop, from level 10. Before that every Rogue plays the same loop.

Own loop from: Combat level 10Subtlety level 10Assassination level 40

  1. Slice and Dice Rank 1 Keep up · combo points

    Keep it up with combo points.

    no damage of its own
  2. Backstab Rank 2 Filler

    Spend the rest of your energy on it.

    28% of your damage
  3. Auto attack All the time

    Your weapon swings on its own. Stay in melee range.

    72% of your damage

How MaxDPS works this out

Talents at level 15

6 points at level 15: the first at level 10, then one every level.

The MaxDPS build at this level, in the game’s talent frame. Click a talent to learn it and right click to unlearn it, as in the game.

Talents
Unspent Talents
Point order: when each point goes in
  1. Opportunity 5/5 · levels 10–14 +4.9% damage
  2. Improved Ambush 1/3 · level 15 not counted here

Every Rogue talent

Preliminary item rankings · Dungeons

Subtlety Rogue gear rankings

Opening strikes, Hemorrhage and bleeds · Level 15 · Calculated defaults

Hunt list
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Shoulders 4 items · Updating…

Where it comes from
Auction prices from

Key stats show the stats behind the three largest score contributions, as the game tooltip states them; open an item’s details for every value and source.

Shoulders items with imported stats, weighted scores and acquisition sources.
Rank Item Score (pts) Where to get it Actions
1 in this filtered list
Bashing Pauldrons Leather · iLvl 20 · Req. 15 · Other drop Key stats: 55 Armor
0.13
Haren SwifthoofNPC drop · 94% · Loch Modan
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Armor: 55 × 0.0023 = 0.13 pts

Common

Source

Haren SwifthoofNPC drop · 94% · Loch Modan
2 in this filtered list
Patched Leather Shoulderpads Leather · iLvl 20 · Req. 15 · Other drop Key stats: 52 Armor
0.12
Armor CrateObject loot · 3.8%
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Armor: 52 × 0.0023 = 0.12 pts

Poor

249 sources

Armor CrateObject loot · 3.8%
Kolkars' BootyObject loot · 2.4% · The Barrens
Kolkar's BootyObject loot · 2.3% · The Barrens
Battered ChestObject loot · 1.2%
Stone WatcherNPC drop · 1.1% · Ruins of Lordaeron
Kolkar's BootyObject loot · 1.1% · The Barrens
Riverpaw OverseerNPC drop · 1% · Westfall
Goblin ShipbuilderNPC drop · 0.9% · Deadmines
Deep WidowNPC drop · 0.9% · Ruins of Lordaeron
All 249 sources
3 in this filtered list
Canvas Shoulderpads Cloth · iLvl 20 · Req. 15 · Other drop Key stats: 23 Armor
0.05
Armor CrateObject loot · 3.4%
Alliance: Horde: None on the auction house

Score breakdown

  • Armor: 23 × 0.0023 = 0.05 pts

Poor

247 sources

Armor CrateObject loot · 3.4%
Kolkars' BootyObject loot · 2.5% · The Barrens
Kolkar's BootyObject loot · 2% · The Barrens
Kolkar's BootyObject loot · 2% · The Barrens
Alliance ChestObject loot · 1.5%
Battered ChestObject loot · 1.4%
Haren SwifthoofNPC drop · 1.4% · Loch Modan
Mo'grosh BruteNPC drop · 1.1% · Loch Modan
All 247 sources
4 in this filtered list
Mantle of the Fire Festival Cloth · iLvl 1 · Req. 1 · Quest Key stats: 2 Armor
0.00

Score breakdown

  • Armor: 2 × 0.0023 = 0.00 pts

Common

Item stats from the WoW Forever game files; sources from data collected from the live game. Auction prices are the lowest buyout on the Americas · Normal auction houses, read from Blizzard every hour; pick another region or ruleset under Filters. Which house is which ruleset is matched by size and still being confirmed in game.

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