Rogue specialization

Subtlety Rogue in WoW Forever

Stealth, bleeds and control.

Your role: Melee damage
Advice for every level to 60
Class notes checked Nov 4, 2026

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Level 20 · Damage in a group

How to play dungeons at level 20

Your combat loop

Press the first one that is ready.

Subtlety’s own loop, from level 10. Before that every Rogue plays the same loop.

Own loop from: Combat level 10Subtlety level 10Assassination level 40

Slice and Dice Rank 1 Keep up · combo points

Keep it up with combo points.

no damage of its own
Backstab Rank 3 Filler

Spend the rest of your energy on it.

28% of your damage
Instant Poison On your weapon

Keep it on your weapon.

6% of your damage
Auto attack All the time

Your weapon swings on its own. Stay in melee range.

67% of your damage

How MaxDPS works this out

Default stat priorities

Weapon melee DPS +9.758.6
Off-hand weapon DPS +11.524.1
Attack power +63.5
Critical strike +143.4
Agility +33.0
Strength +42.4

Adjust stat priorities Calculated defaults

Strength Agility Stamina Attack power Critical strike Hit Haste Expertise Armor Bonus armor Weapon melee DPS Weapon damage per swing Off-hand weapon DPS

Talents at level 20

11 points at level 20: the first at level 10, then one every level.

The MaxDPS build at this level, in the game’s talent frame. Click a talent to learn it and right click to unlearn it, as in the game.

Talents

Unspent Talents

Point order: when each point goes in

Opportunity 5/5 · levels 10–14 +4.8% damage
Improved Ambush 3/3 · levels 15–17 not counted here
Dirty Deeds 2/2 · levels 18–19 not counted here
Serrated Blades 1/3 · level 20 +0.9% damage

Every Rogue talent

Preliminary item rankings · Dungeons

Subtlety Rogue gear rankings

Opening strikes, Hemorrhage and bleeds · Level 20 · Calculated defaults

Hunt list

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Materials: . Each reagent counts at the lower of a vendor’s price and its lowest buyout.

Main hand items with imported stats, weighted scores and acquisition sources.
Rank	Item	Score (pts)	Where to get it
1 in this filtered list	Assassin's Blade Dagger · iLvl 24 · Req. 19 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 15.53 Weapon melee DPS4 Agility3 Strength	102.68	Blood SeekerNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 15.53 × 4.746 = 73.71 pts Weapon damage per swing: 29.5 × 0.7865 = 23.20 pts Agility: 4 × 1 = 4.00 pts Strength: 3 × 0.5902 = 1.77 pts Rare 12 sources Blood SeekerNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep Shadowfang GluttonNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep Shadowfang RagetoothNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep Tormented OfficerNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep Commander SpringvaleBoss drop · <0.1% Son of ArugalNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep Shadow ChargerNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep Wailing GuardsmanNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep Lupine HorrorNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep Vile BatNPC drop · <0.1% · Shadowfang Keep All 12 sources
2 in this filtered list	Scout's Blade Dagger · iLvl 23 · Req. 18 · Vendor · Horde only Key stats: 15.29 Weapon melee DPS4 Agility2 Stamina	97.48	Kelm HargunthVendor · 1g 21s 68c · The Barrens
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 15.29 × 4.746 = 72.57 pts Weapon damage per swing: 26 × 0.7865 = 20.45 pts Agility: 4 × 1 = 4.00 pts Stamina: 2 × 0.2334 = 0.47 pts Rare Source Kelm HargunthVendor · 1g 21s 68c · The Barrens
3 in this filtered list	Sentinel's Blade Dagger · iLvl 23 · Req. 18 · Vendor · Alliance only Key stats: 15.29 Weapon melee DPS4 Agility2 Stamina	97.48	Illiyana MoonblazeVendor · 1g 4s 40c · Ashenvale
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 15.29 × 4.746 = 72.57 pts Weapon damage per swing: 26 × 0.7865 = 20.45 pts Agility: 4 × 1 = 4.00 pts Stamina: 2 × 0.2334 = 0.47 pts Rare Source Illiyana MoonblazeVendor · 1g 4s 40c · Ashenvale
4 in this filtered list	Blackfang Dagger · iLvl 25 · Req. 20 · Other drop Key stats: 16.33 Weapon melee DPS	96.77	Azzere the SkybladeNPC drop · 0.2% · The Barrens None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 16.33 × 4.746 = 77.50 pts Weapon damage per swing: 24.5 × 0.7865 = 19.27 pts Rare 66 sources Azzere the SkybladeNPC drop · 0.2% · The Barrens Ornate Bronze LockboxContainer loot · 0.1% Suffering VictimNPC drop · 0.1% · Scarlet Monastery Large Iron Bound ChestObject loot · 0.1% Shadethicket Stone MoverNPC drop · <0.1% · Ashenvale Hillsbrad Apprentice BlacksmithNPC drop · <0.1% · Hillsbrad Foothills Mirkfallon DryadNPC drop · <0.1% · Stonetalon Mountains Son of CenariusNPC drop · <0.1% · Stonetalon Mountains XT:9NPC drop · <0.1% · Stonetalon Mountains Hillsbrad CouncilmanNPC drop · <0.1% · Hillsbrad Foothills All 66 sources
5 in this filtered list	Whipfang's Skinsearer Dagger · iLvl 24 · Req. 19 · Other drop Key stats: 15.59 Weapon melee DPS	94.83	Taskmaster WhipfangNPC drop · 0.2% · Stonetalon Mountains
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 15.59 × 4.746 = 73.99 pts Weapon damage per swing: 26.5 × 0.7865 = 20.84 pts Rare Source Taskmaster WhipfangNPC drop · 0.2% · Stonetalon Mountains
6 in this filtered list	Tail Spike Dagger · iLvl 21 · Req. 16 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 13.89 Weapon melee DPS3 Agility3 Strength	90.36	SkumNPC drop · 29% · Wailing Caverns
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 13.89 × 4.746 = 65.92 pts Weapon damage per swing: 25 × 0.7865 = 19.66 pts Agility: 3 × 1 = 3.00 pts Strength: 3 × 0.5902 = 1.77 pts Rare Source SkumNPC drop · 29% · Wailing Caverns
7 in this filtered list	Meathook Slicer Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 13.61 Weapon melee DPS5 Stamina	85.03	The BaronNPC drop · 29% · Ruins of Lordaeron
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 13.61 × 4.746 = 64.59 pts Weapon damage per swing: 24.5 × 0.7865 = 19.27 pts Stamina: 5 × 0.2334 = 1.17 pts Rare Source The BaronNPC drop · 29% · Ruins of Lordaeron
8 in this filtered list	Deadly Bronze Poniard Dagger · iLvl 25 · Req. 20 · Crafted Key stats: 12.78 Weapon melee DPS4 Agility	82.74	BlacksmithingCrafted None on the auction house Materials about
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 12.78 × 4.746 = 60.65 pts Weapon damage per swing: 23 × 0.7865 = 18.09 pts Agility: 4 × 1 = 4.00 pts Uncommon Source BlacksmithingCrafted
9 in this filtered list	Spikelash Dagger Dagger · iLvl 24 · Req. 19 · Other drop Key stats: 12.11 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility2 Stamina	78.03	Lady VespiraNPC drop · 59% · Darkshore None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 12.11 × 4.746 = 57.47 pts Weapon damage per swing: 23 × 0.7865 = 18.09 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Stamina: 2 × 0.2334 = 0.47 pts Uncommon Source Lady VespiraNPC drop · 59% · Darkshore
10 in this filtered list	Edward's Knife Dagger · iLvl 24 · Req. 19* · Quest · Horde only Key stats: 12.19 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility2 Stamina	75.66	A Frightened RequestQuest choice · Ruins of Lordaeron
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 12.19 × 4.746 = 57.85 pts Weapon damage per swing: 19.5 × 0.7865 = 15.34 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Stamina: 2 × 0.2334 = 0.47 pts Uncommon Source A Frightened RequestQuest choice · Ruins of Lordaeron
11 in this filtered list	Goblin Screwdriver Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 12.14 Weapon melee DPS4 Agility	74.99	Goblin EngineerNPC drop · 5.8% · Deadmines None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 12.14 × 4.746 = 57.62 pts Weapon damage per swing: 17 × 0.7865 = 13.37 pts Agility: 4 × 1 = 4.00 pts Rare Source Goblin EngineerNPC drop · 5.8% · Deadmines
12 in this filtered list	Chanting Blade Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 12 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility3 Stamina	73.81	Jergosh the InvokerNPC drop · 16% · Ragefire Chasm
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 12 × 4.746 = 56.95 pts Weapon damage per swing: 18 × 0.7865 = 14.16 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Stamina: 3 × 0.2334 = 0.70 pts Rare Source Jergosh the InvokerNPC drop · 16% · Ragefire Chasm
13 in this filtered list	Pearl-handled Dagger Dagger · iLvl 23 · Req. 18 · Crafted Key stats: 11.47 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility2 Stamina	72.24	BlacksmithingCrafted None on the auction house Materials about
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 11.47 × 4.746 = 54.44 pts Weapon damage per swing: 19.5 × 0.7865 = 15.34 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Stamina: 2 × 0.2334 = 0.47 pts Uncommon Source BlacksmithingCrafted
14 in this filtered list	Kris Dagger · iLvl 24 · Req. 19 · Vendor Key stats: 10.94 Weapon melee DPS	65.68	Gavin GnarltreeVendor · 74s 89c · Duskwood None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10.94 × 4.746 = 51.92 pts Weapon damage per swing: 17.5 × 0.7865 = 13.76 pts Common 18 sources Gavin GnarltreeVendor · 74s 89c · Duskwood Marda WellerVendor · 74s 89c · Stormwind City Gunther WellerVendor · 74s 89c · Stormwind City Brak DurnadVendor · 74s 89c · Wetlands Kard RagetotemVendor · 71s 15c · Thunder Bluff KarethVendor · 74s 89c · Orgrimmar ShomaVendor · 74s 89c · Orgrimmar OttVendor · 74s 89c · Hillsbrad Foothills VeenixVendor · 71s 15c · Stonetalon Mountains MerelyssaVendor · 74s 89c · Darnassus All 18 sources
15 in this filtered list	Evocator's Blade Dagger · iLvl 25 · Req. 20 · Other drop · Spell power seen in game Key stats: 10.94 Weapon melee DPS	65.68	Fallenroot ShadowstalkerNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10.94 × 4.746 = 51.92 pts Weapon damage per swing: 17.5 × 0.7865 = 13.76 pts Rare 22 sources Fallenroot ShadowstalkerNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Twilight ShadowmageNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Blackfathom MyrmidonNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Blackfathom Sea WitchNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Blindlight OracleNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Snapping CrustaceanNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Barbed CrustaceanNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Twilight LoreseekerNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Fallenroot HellcallerNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps Twilight AquamancerNPC drop · <0.1% · Blackfathom Deeps All 22 sources
16 in this filtered list	Brackclaw Dagger · iLvl 21 · Req. 16 · Other drop Key stats: 10.31 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility2 Strength	65.09	BrackNPC drop · 38% · Westfall None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10.31 × 4.746 = 48.93 pts Weapon damage per swing: 16.5 × 0.7865 = 12.98 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Strength: 2 × 0.5902 = 1.18 pts Uncommon Source BrackNPC drop · 38% · Westfall
17 in this filtered list	Big Bronze Knife Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15 · Crafted Key stats: 10 Weapon melee DPS3 Stamina	63.10	BlacksmithingCrafted None on the auction house Materials about
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10 × 4.746 = 47.46 pts Weapon damage per swing: 19 × 0.7865 = 14.94 pts Stamina: 3 × 0.2334 = 0.70 pts Uncommon Source BlacksmithingCrafted
18 in this filtered list	Thornblade Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15* · Quest · Alliance only Key stats: 10 Weapon melee DPS3 Agility	63.04	A Dark Threat LoomsQuest choice · Loch Modan
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10 × 4.746 = 47.46 pts Weapon damage per swing: 16 × 0.7865 = 12.58 pts Agility: 3 × 1 = 3.00 pts Uncommon Source A Dark Threat LoomsQuest choice · Loch Modan
19 in this filtered list	Relic Blade Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15* · Quest · Alliance only Key stats: 10 Weapon melee DPS3 Stamina	62.32	The Absent Minded ProspectorQuest choice · Wetlands
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10 × 4.746 = 47.46 pts Weapon damage per swing: 18 × 0.7865 = 14.16 pts Stamina: 3 × 0.2334 = 0.70 pts Uncommon Source The Absent Minded ProspectorQuest choice · Wetlands
20 in this filtered list	Scrimshaw Dagger Dagger · iLvl 19 · Req. 14* · Quest · Alliance only Key stats: 9.72 Weapon melee DPS2 Stamina	60.36	Red Silk BandanasQuest choice · Deadmines
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 9.72 × 4.746 = 46.13 pts Weapon damage per swing: 17.5 × 0.7865 = 13.76 pts Stamina: 2 × 0.2334 = 0.47 pts Uncommon Source Red Silk BandanasQuest choice · Deadmines

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