Rogue specialization

Subtlety Rogue in WoW Forever

Stealth, bleeds and control.

Your role: Melee damage
Advice for every level to 60
Class notes checked Nov 4, 2026

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Level 15 · Damage in a group

How to play dungeons at level 15

Your combat loop

Press the first one that is ready.

Subtlety’s own loop, from level 10. Before that every Rogue plays the same loop.

Own loop from: Combat level 10Subtlety level 10Assassination level 40

Slice and Dice Rank 1 Keep up · combo points

Keep it up with combo points.

no damage of its own
Backstab Rank 2 Filler

Spend the rest of your energy on it.

28% of your damage
Auto attack All the time

Your weapon swings on its own. Stay in melee range.

72% of your damage

How MaxDPS works this out

Default stat priorities

Weapon melee DPS +7.141.7
Off-hand weapon DPS +7.515.5
Agility +22.0
Attack power +31.7
Strength +21.1
Stamina +30.8

Adjust stat priorities Calculated defaults

Strength Agility Stamina Attack power Critical strike Hit Haste Expertise Armor Bonus armor Weapon melee DPS Weapon damage per swing Off-hand weapon DPS

Talents at level 15

6 points at level 15: the first at level 10, then one every level.

The MaxDPS build at this level, in the game’s talent frame. Click a talent to learn it and right click to unlearn it, as in the game.

Talents

Unspent Talents

Point order: when each point goes in

Opportunity 5/5 · levels 10–14 +4.9% damage
Improved Ambush 1/3 · level 15 not counted here

Every Rogue talent

Preliminary item rankings · Dungeons

Subtlety Rogue gear rankings

Opening strikes, Hemorrhage and bleeds · Level 15 · Calculated defaults

Hunt list

SoloingDungeons

Materials: . Each reagent counts at the lower of a vendor’s price and its lowest buyout.

Main hand items with imported stats, weighted scores and acquisition sources.
Rank	Item	Score (pts)	Where to get it
1 in this filtered list	Meathook Slicer Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 13.61 Weapon melee DPS5 Stamina	83.88	The BaronNPC drop · 29% · Ruins of Lordaeron
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 13.61 × 4.146 = 56.43 pts Weapon damage per swing: 24.5 × 1.069 = 26.19 pts Stamina: 5 × 0.2526 = 1.26 pts Rare Source The BaronNPC drop · 29% · Ruins of Lordaeron
2 in this filtered list	Goblin Screwdriver Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 12.14 Weapon melee DPS4 Agility	72.51	Goblin EngineerNPC drop · 5.8% · Deadmines None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 12.14 × 4.146 = 50.33 pts Weapon damage per swing: 17 × 1.069 = 18.17 pts Agility: 4 × 1 = 4.00 pts Rare Source Goblin EngineerNPC drop · 5.8% · Deadmines
3 in this filtered list	Chanting Blade Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 12 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility3 Stamina	71.75	Jergosh the InvokerNPC drop · 16% · Ragefire Chasm
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 12 × 4.146 = 49.75 pts Weapon damage per swing: 18 × 1.069 = 19.24 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Stamina: 3 × 0.2526 = 0.76 pts Rare Source Jergosh the InvokerNPC drop · 16% · Ragefire Chasm
4 in this filtered list	Big Bronze Knife Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15 · Crafted Key stats: 10 Weapon melee DPS3 Stamina	62.53	BlacksmithingCrafted None on the auction house Materials about
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10 × 4.146 = 41.46 pts Weapon damage per swing: 19 × 1.069 = 20.31 pts Stamina: 3 × 0.2526 = 0.76 pts Uncommon Source BlacksmithingCrafted
5 in this filtered list	Thornblade Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15* · Quest · Alliance only Key stats: 10 Weapon melee DPS3 Agility	61.56	A Dark Threat LoomsQuest choice · Loch Modan
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10 × 4.146 = 41.46 pts Weapon damage per swing: 16 × 1.069 = 17.10 pts Agility: 3 × 1 = 3.00 pts Uncommon Source A Dark Threat LoomsQuest choice · Loch Modan
6 in this filtered list	Relic Blade Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15* · Quest · Alliance only Key stats: 10 Weapon melee DPS3 Stamina	61.46	The Absent Minded ProspectorQuest choice · Wetlands
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10 × 4.146 = 41.46 pts Weapon damage per swing: 18 × 1.069 = 19.24 pts Stamina: 3 × 0.2526 = 0.76 pts Uncommon Source The Absent Minded ProspectorQuest choice · Wetlands
7 in this filtered list	Scrimshaw Dagger Dagger · iLvl 19 · Req. 14* · Quest · Alliance only Key stats: 9.72 Weapon melee DPS2 Stamina	59.51	Red Silk BandanasQuest choice · Deadmines
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 9.72 × 4.146 = 40.30 pts Weapon damage per swing: 17.5 × 1.069 = 18.71 pts Stamina: 2 × 0.2526 = 0.51 pts Uncommon Source Red Silk BandanasQuest choice · Deadmines
8 in this filtered list	Hook Dagger Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15 · Other drop Key stats: 10 Weapon melee DPS	57.50	ThragommNPC drop · 3.6% · Loch Modan None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 10 × 4.146 = 41.46 pts Weapon damage per swing: 15 × 1.069 = 16.04 pts Uncommon 283 sources ThragommNPC drop · 3.6% · Loch Modan Deathstalker AdamantNPC drop · 2.2% · Shadowfang Keep Kolkars' BootyObject loot · 1.6% · The Barrens SnarlflareNPC drop · 1.2% · Redridge Mountains Large Battered ChestObject loot · 1.2% Brainwashed NobleNPC drop · 1.1% Kolkar's BootyObject loot · 1% · The Barrens Sludge BeastNPC drop · 0.8% · The Barrens Fallenroot SatyrNPC drop · 0.8% Defias BlackguardNPC drop · 0.8% · Deadmines All 283 sources
9 in this filtered list	Harpy Skinner Dagger · iLvl 20 · Req. 15* · Quest · Horde only Key stats: 9.64 Weapon melee DPS3 Agility	57.40	Serena BloodfeatherQuest choice · The Barrens
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 9.64 × 4.146 = 39.97 pts Weapon damage per swing: 13.5 × 1.069 = 14.43 pts Agility: 3 × 1 = 3.00 pts Uncommon Source Serena BloodfeatherQuest choice · The Barrens
10 in this filtered list	Venom Web Fang Dagger · iLvl 19 · Req. 14 · Other drop Key stats: 9.67 Weapon melee DPS	55.59	Venom Web SpiderNPC drop · 1.1% None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 9.67 × 4.146 = 40.09 pts Weapon damage per swing: 14.5 × 1.069 = 15.50 pts Uncommon Source Venom Web SpiderNPC drop · 1.1%
11 in this filtered list	Serrated Knife Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13* · Quest · Horde only Key stats: 9.06 Weapon melee DPS1 Agility1 Stamina	54.32	Wand to BethorQuest choice · Silverpine Forest
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 9.06 × 4.146 = 37.56 pts Weapon damage per swing: 14.5 × 1.069 = 15.50 pts Agility: 1 × 1 = 1.00 pts Stamina: 1 × 0.2526 = 0.25 pts Uncommon Source Wand to BethorQuest choice · Silverpine Forest
12 in this filtered list	Slicer Blade Dagger · iLvl 17 · Req. 12 · Other drop Key stats: 8.67 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility	51.84	Harvest ReaperNPC drop · 1.5% None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 8.67 × 4.146 = 35.95 pts Weapon damage per swing: 13 × 1.069 = 13.90 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Uncommon Source Harvest ReaperNPC drop · 1.5%
13 in this filtered list	Hollowfang Blade Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13 · Other drop Key stats: 8.93 Weapon melee DPS2 Strength	51.53	Pygmy Venom Web SpiderNPC drop · 1.1% None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 8.93 × 4.146 = 37.02 pts Weapon damage per swing: 12.5 × 1.069 = 13.36 pts Strength: 2 × 0.574 = 1.15 pts Uncommon Source Pygmy Venom Web SpiderNPC drop · 1.1%
14 in this filtered list	Windforged Shortblade Dagger · iLvl 15 · Req. 10 · Other drop Key stats: 7.73 Weapon melee DPS2 Attack power	51.37	Den'dralassNPC drop · 27% · Zephras Isle None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 7.73 × 4.146 = 32.05 pts Weapon damage per swing: 17 × 1.069 = 18.17 pts Attack power: 2 × 0.574 = 1.15 pts Uncommon Source Den'dralassNPC drop · 27% · Zephras Isle
15 in this filtered list	War Knife Dagger · iLvl 17 · Req. 12 · Other drop Key stats: 8.53 Weapon melee DPS	50.87	Kolkar's BootyObject loot · 1.9% · The Barrens None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 8.53 × 4.146 = 35.37 pts Weapon damage per swing: 14.5 × 1.069 = 15.50 pts Uncommon 285 sources Kolkar's BootyObject loot · 1.9% · The Barrens Sorcerer AshcrombeNPC drop · 1.5% · Shadowfang Keep BroodwidowNPC drop · 1.5% · Ruins of Lordaeron RocklanceNPC drop · 1.2% · The Barrens Pyrewood LeatherworkerNPC drop · 1.1% · Silverpine Forest Elder Mystic RazorsnoutNPC drop · 1.1% · The Barrens Moonrage TailorNPC drop · 1.1% · Silverpine Forest Large Battered ChestObject loot · 1.1% Moonrage LeatherworkerNPC drop · 1.1% · Silverpine Forest Gorehoof the BlackNPC drop · 1% · Stonetalon Mountains All 285 sources
16 in this filtered list	Ritual Blade Dagger · iLvl 17 · Req. 12 · Other drop Key stats: 8.57 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility	50.36	RathorianNPC drop · 25% · The Barrens None on the auction house
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 8.57 × 4.146 = 35.53 pts Weapon damage per swing: 12 × 1.069 = 12.83 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Uncommon Source RathorianNPC drop · 25% · The Barrens
17 in this filtered list	Daggerfang's Daggerfang Dagger · iLvl 16 · Req. 11* · Quest · Alliance only Key stats: 7.94 Weapon melee DPS2 Agility	49.35	Twisting the KnifeQuest reward · Loch Modan
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 7.94 × 4.146 = 32.92 pts Weapon damage per swing: 13.5 × 1.069 = 14.43 pts Agility: 2 × 1 = 2.00 pts Uncommon Source Twisting the KnifeQuest reward · Loch Modan
18 in this filtered list	Searing Dagger Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13 · Dungeon drop Key stats: 8.13 Weapon melee DPS	47.60	BazzalanNPC drop · 11% · Ragefire Chasm
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 8.13 × 4.146 = 33.71 pts Weapon damage per swing: 13 × 1.069 = 13.90 pts Rare Source BazzalanNPC drop · 11% · Ragefire Chasm
19 in this filtered list	Fang of Magmatus Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13 · Dungeon drop · Spell power seen in game Key stats: 7.94 Weapon melee DPS	47.35	MagmatusNPC drop · 36% · The Hall of Thanes
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 7.94 × 4.146 = 32.92 pts Weapon damage per swing: 13.5 × 1.069 = 14.43 pts Rare Source MagmatusNPC drop · 36% · The Hall of Thanes
20 in this filtered list	Kris of Orgrimmar Dagger · iLvl 18 · Req. 13* · Quest · Horde only · Spell power seen in game Key stats: 8 Weapon melee DPS4 Stamina	47.01	Hidden EnemiesQuest choice · Orgrimmar
Score breakdown Weapon melee DPS: 8 × 4.146 = 33.17 pts Weapon damage per swing: 12 × 1.069 = 12.83 pts Stamina: 4 × 0.2526 = 1.01 pts Rare Source Hidden EnemiesQuest choice · Orgrimmar

Item stats from the WoW Forever game files; sources from data collected from the live game. Auction prices are the lowest buyout on the Americas · Normal auction houses, read from Blizzard every hour; pick another region or ruleset under Filters. Which house is which ruleset is matched by size and still being confirmed in game.

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